[PolePosition]

I speculate that the 24 Pounds of Boost depicted in every picture of the Direct Connection Hand Held Programmer is an Easter Egg pointing to the amount of boost we can expect in the upcoming Redeye Stage III Performance Kit.

24 Pounds of Boost is +9.5 PSI over the stock Redeye 14.5 PSI.

797 HP + 9.5 additional PSI ≈ 1312 HP

Source: (Boost Calculator) Wallace Racing - Estimate HP From Adding Boost Calculator

 

[Ivory15Cat]

I highly doubt you will see that, the SC wouldn’t be able to maintain a warranty with that RPM of spin. Not to mention race gas or corn needed, fuel system, driveshaft, half shafts, and diff. Too many parts are close to max already for them to offer it and keep a warranty. Sorry to bust your bubble but don’t count on that being and Easter egg of any sort.

 

[PolePosition]

I highly doubt you will see that, the SC wouldn’t be able to maintain a warranty with that RPM of spin. Not to mention race gas or corn needed, fuel system, driveshaft, half shafts, and diff. Too many parts are close to max already for them to offer it and keep a warranty. Sorry to bust your bubble but don’t count on that being and Easter egg of any sort.

You might be right, but we don't yet know what's in the Stage III performance kit.

Here is what Hennessy does to get the Redeye to 1035 HP:
* Note: They use the stock Redeye supercharger.

HPE1000 Hellcat Redeye Upgrade
Available for the 2019 – 2021 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye.

POWER:
• 1035 bhp @ 6,500 rpm
• 948 lb-ft torque @ 4,200 rpm

INCLUDES:
• Lower Pulley Upgrade
• Upper Pulley Upgrade
• Ported Supercharger Snout
• Stainless-Steel Long Tube Headers
• High-Flow Catalytic Converters
• High-Flow Mid Pipes
• High-Flow Fuel Injectors
• High-Flow Air Induction System
• Crank Case Ventilation System
• HPE Calibration Upgrade
• 2 Year /24,000 Mile Limited Warranty

Doesn't seem too far out of reach to me.
I don't really think we'll see 1312 HP at the crank from Dodge, but I do think we will see something very close to 1000 HP.

Source: 1000 HP Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye Upgrade | Hennessey Performance

 

[Unholy707]

You might be right, but we don't yet know what's in the Stage III performance kit.

Here is what Hennessy does to get the Redeye to 1035 HP:
* Note: They use the stock Redeye supercharger.

HPE1000 Hellcat Redeye Upgrade
Available for the 2019 – 2021 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye.

POWER:
• 1035 bhp @ 6,500 rpm
• 948 lb-ft torque @ 4,200 rpm

INCLUDES:
• Lower Pulley Upgrade
• Upper Pulley Upgrade
• Ported Supercharger Snout
• Stainless-Steel Long Tube Headers
• High-Flow Catalytic Converters
• High-Flow Mid Pipes
• High-Flow Fuel Injectors
• High-Flow Air Induction System
• Crank Case Ventilation System
• HPE Calibration Upgrade
• 2 Year /24,000 Mile Limited Warranty

Doesn't seem too far out of reach to me.
I don't really think we'll see 1312 HP at the crank from Dodge, but I do think we will see something very close to 1000 HP.

Source: 1000 HP Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye Upgrade | Hennessey Performance

Do you think that’s pump gas?

 

[Big Swede]

Do you think that’s pump gas?

I highly doubt it. The hardware is the easy part. The limits are usually fuel.

There is no chance stage III will have 1312hp for that reason.

 

[WVHEMIS]

I think you are correct. I am thinking someplace around 930+ HP for Stage III.

 

[JS23V0B]

Does it come with an e85 conversion? 93 octane won't cut it.

 

[Under-Pressure]

I would like to see some results from the pre stage first. Have they been able to figure out the colder thermostat tune yet?

 

[Unholy707]

Whipple won’t sell ANYTHING they make FOR e85. They even tell you not to use anything but gasoline with all the lines they provide. Will be interesting to see, but Whipple usually won’t put out a “kit” for anything other than pump gas and race fuel. Also, NO WAY an e85 or race fuel kit would be CARB compliant, so you can say goodbye to that idea. Would be no warranty/ off-road use only. Remember, at the very least you need higher flow cats with e85 or they will get clogged. Also, it’ll be tuned for 91, not even 93 (if there’s much of a real difference) because 93 isn’t available everywhere. The reason the gen v whipple would be part of the stage 3 kit at all is because it has more displacement than the 2.7 supercharger, and larger intercooler bricks. So it’ll make more power more efficiently and at lower boost levels than would be needed with the stock 2.7. The factory isn’t going to warranty spinning the stock supercharger past what the stage 2 kit is going to do, there’s no way they will because with stock bearings any pulley modification is already spinning it past it’s engineered rpm

 

[SickToo]

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I speculate that the 24 Pounds of Boost depicted in every picture of the Direct Connection Hand Held Programmer is an Easter Egg pointing to the amount of boost we can expect in the upcoming Redeye Stage III Performance Kit.

24 Pounds of Boost is +9.5 PSI over the stock Redeye 14.5 PSI.

797 HP + 9.5 additional PSI ≈ 1312 HP

Source: (Boost Calculator) Wallace Racing - Estimate HP From Adding Boost Calculator

Smoked

 

[Jailbreak_Dre]

I would hope that Stage 3 would include upgraded injectors/fuel pump and flex fuel for e85. Only reason I think it’s possible is because they already have Flex Fuel Durangos

 

[Big Swede]

I would hope that Stage 3 would include upgraded injectors/fuel pump and flex fuel for e85. Only reason I think it’s possible is because they already have Flex Fuel Durangos

There's no chance the factory is going to add 500hp to an already 800hp engine. I think we have been extremely fortunate to have the factory hp that we have but it has caused people to lose their grip on reality.

 

[Jailbreak_Dre]

At the same time it’s not truly 800hp. Factoring in a 10-15% loss when converted to wheel you’re more around high 600- low 700 and that’s being generous.

 

[Big Swede]

At the same time it’s not truly 800hp. Factoring in a 10-15% loss when converted to wheel you’re more around high 600- low 700 and that’s being generous.

Same with the 1300hp they are talking about. All of these figures are crank so you will lose more like 10% with a modern auto.

 

[Bhdau1]

No chance. It takes a hell of a lot of money and modifications to get a reliable 1100 horsepower at the crank and that's on E85. Someone correct me if I am wrong but to get those kind of horsepower numbers on regular 93 octane pump gas would require a completely different engine block and internals, not to mention a totally different supercharger. OR, you could get there with a huge shot of nitrous exactly one time for a few seconds before parts are launched at 1500 fps in every direction!

 

[Jailbreak_Dre]

Also just to clarify, I was looking for a more reasonable figure at 950 crank vice 1314 lol. I believe that’s doable and in a ballpark they’d probably shoot for

 

[hc797]

If they can't get the vehicle security working correctly, i have my doubts about these "performance kits' actually working without major headaches ..... my Power Broker dealer agrees!

 

[Unholy707]

If they can't get the vehicle security working correctly, i have my doubts about these "performance kits' actually working without major headaches ..... my Power Broker dealer agrees!

Wrong. It’s literally just a rebadged Diablo Sport handheld. It’s identical. Wonder why this hasn’t come out yet, it has to be.

 

[Unholy707]

If the aftermarket can figure it out the OEM can

 

[Under-Pressure]

If the aftermarket can figure it out the OEM can

Dodge can’t even get a U Connect radio system to work reliably. I would prefer a rebranded, 100% proven aftermarket item Direct Connection did not touch.