Agreed, man that suspension works spot on perfect by designThe SS is strip focused. If you don't take it to the strip, the RE is always going to be a better overall performer on the street. For me, the biggest issue is the tiny brakes on the SS in comparison to the Redeye. Brakes are great on the track, but you don't need them on the strip. The SS of course has the tiny front brakes. Where you also need the big brakes is on the street. From a safety and defensive driving perspective, the Redeye wins in spades vs. the SS for the braking issue alone in my book.
The SS should get up and go a little bit faster than a Redeye, but not by much and definitely not by much (if at all) on the street. At the strip, it should pull out better than the Redeye because its suspension is designed specifically for that. On the street, the traction isn't good enough to fully utilize that suspension in drag mode, so it's a bit of a wasted feature on the street, in my opinion.
The SS has lower speed rated tires and a software speed limiter to prohibit exceeding their limit, so unless you tune it and torpedo your warranty, you won't be doing any head turning 1mi runs in an SS.
You must own a HC and have a hard time being objective.The SS is strip focused. If you don't take it to the strip, the RE is always going to be a better overall performer on the street. For me, the biggest issue is the tiny brakes on the SS in comparison to the Redeye. Brakes are great on the track, but you don't need them on the strip. The SS of course has the tiny front brakes. Where you also need the big brakes is on the street. From a safety and defensive driving perspective, the Redeye wins in spades vs. the SS for the braking issue alone in my book.
The SS should get up and go a little bit faster than a Redeye, but not by much and definitely not by much (if at all) on the street. At the strip, it should pull out better than the Redeye because its suspension is designed specifically for that. On the street, the traction isn't good enough to fully utilize that suspension in drag mode, so it's a bit of a wasted feature on the street, in my opinion.
The SS has lower speed rated tires and a software speed limiter to prohibit exceeding their limit, so unless you tune it and torpedo your warranty, you won't be doing any head turning 1mi runs in an SS.
Absolutely!… like a monorailYou must own a HC and have a hard time being objective.
Tiny brakes. Haha
The suspension only works on the track Haha
I’ve never driven an SS but everyone who has owned both say it’s shocking how much better the SS hooks up on the street.
The front brakes on the SS are small 4 piston calipers. Thus, they have reduced braking performance vs. any SP, HC, or Redeye. Nothing objective about it, just fact. They're bigger than the brakes on a Honda Civic, but they're on a car that weighs 4,500lb. If someone is going to buy an SS for street use, it will have less stopping potential in comparison to the other HC offerings. This is important for some folks who might like to drive a little too fast and someone in a grocery getter pulls out in front of them out of nowhere. If you were ever in a real close call in a Redeye, you would have probably hit them in a SS. The SS is a performance car that makes quite a few drag racing concessions that removes some overall safety and performance during NORMAL street use.You must own a HC and have a hard time being objective.
Tiny brakes. Haha
The suspension only works on the track Haha
I’ve never driven an SS but everyone who has owned both say it’s shocking how much better the SS hooks up on the street.
Yeah but 20 inch wheels ewwwThe front brakes on the SS are small 4 piston calipers. Thus, they have reduced braking performance vs. any SP, HC, or Redeye. Nothing objective about it, just fact. They're bigger than the brakes on a Honda Civic, but they're on a car that weighs 4,500lb. If someone is going to buy an SS for street use, it will have less stopping potential in comparison to the other HC offerings. This is important for some folks who might like to drive a little too fast and someone in a grocery getter pulls out in front of them out of nowhere. If you were ever in a real close call in a Redeye, you would have probably hit them in a SS. The SS is a performance car that makes quite a few drag racing concessions that removes some overall safety and performance during NORMAL street use.
Same holds true for the suspension. Yes, it will squat just fine on the street, but the street surface is irregular, thus, performance capacity is reduced. Not objective, just factual. To get the full performance out of the car that a person pays for, it has to be utilized on the strip that it was intended to operate at. Ideally, this is with the included drag radials on a prepped surface. Then, all that squat can maximize down pressure and improve strip times. You're not going to achieve that in most instances on the street. The suspension, for road use, is a little sloppy. It's ultra soft and has soft sidewall drag radials which will affect precision handling and inclement weather driving safety. It's designed to maximize traction at low to no speed (IE, from a dig) under ideal conditions. Every other non-Demon in the Dodge lineup has better cornering potential. And, for street use, the suspension is less responsive. Again, because the SS suspension is softer.
Nothing objective at all about what I said. It's all physics. The car is a purpose build drag racer. If someone shucks out $90 grand for an SS and never takes it to a track, it isn't going to be anything better than a Redeye in most situations. Sure, you might find some nicely laid out tarmac once in a blue moon that will let it get full grip and scoot like a champ, but most times, that extra grip is going to go up in smoke because the street is irregular. Thus, performance on the street is very very similar to the Redeye... with the exception that it can't turn as well, can't stop as well, and its top speed is almost 40mph slower.
The HC and Redeyes are "all-rounder" type cars that can perform well at the strip and on the street. The SS is great on the strip, similar to a Redeye in traction performance on the street, but has definitive weaknesses when you start factoring in turning and braking. The car was simply made to be a drag car and has passable performance in other areas. The Redeye is almost as good on the strip and doesn't have the weaknesses that the SS has to gain that edge it does get on the drag strip.
Prob because it's rolling on DR’s. Also that’s from a dig going straight. As in drag type stuff. Softer suspension and smaller brakes aren't helping it handle better than a RE in turns or stop better on the street. RE is a better street weapon. SS is a better track weapon. It's not rocket science.I’ve never driven an SS but everyone who has owned both say it’s shocking how much better the SS hooks up on the street.
I don’t disagree with that. Saying the brakes are tiny is just laughable. They are still huge by any standard and still provide incredibly short stopping distances.Prob because it's rolling on DR’s. Also that’s from a dig going straight. As in drag type stuff. Softer suspension and smaller brakes aren't helping it handle better than a RE in turns or stop better on the street. RE is a better street weapon. SS is a better track weapon. It's not rocket science.
SS comes with stickies. DR’s will do that lolI don’t disagree with that. Saying the brakes are tiny is just laughable. They are still huge by any standard and still provide incredibly short stopping distances.
Like I said I haven’t driven an SS but everyone says the way they hook up on the street is a major difference from a dig or a roll.