[TheRedKey]

Are these the bricks the same or is the 2.7 better than the 2.4?
Someone is selling 2.7 bricks (used) for $550 and claims theyre better.

 

[ScLeCo]

I think they're the same. The only "upgraded" bricks I've found are these but they're pretty expensive for what I believe would be very minimal if any gains.
Hellcat Intercooler Bricks

 

[16GoManGoHC]

They are the same physical size 2.4/2.7 but the newer bricks both on the 2.4 and 2.7 have a fin design change that increases their effective surface area.

 

[TheRedKey]

They are the same physical size 2.4/2.7 but the newer bricks both on the 2.4 and 2.7 have a fin design change that increases their effective surface area.

Do you know the temp decrease amount?

 

[16GoManGoHC]

Do you know the temp decrease amount?

No, never saw anything published on it, I really don’t think it’s a whole lot. The fin material is just perforated with slots that push the air through a snake like channel in and out of each fin channel path as turbulent air across the fins will increase heat transfer but it also acts like a restriction too. Be interesting to see a dyno comparison same blower, same engjne, same day with just swapping the bricks out out in the blower. Your blower may already have this depending on the year.

 

[TheRedKey]

No, never saw anything published on it, I really don’t think it’s a whole lot. The fin material is just perforated with slots that push the air through a snake like channel in and out of each fin channel path as turbulent air across the fins will increase heat transfer but it also acts like a restriction too. Be interesting to see a dyno comparison same blower, same engjne, same day with just swapping the bricks out out in the blower. Your blower may already have this depending on the year.

2016. Warranty replaced in 2019. Ive asked my tuner and the brick company, waiting on a response.

 

[TheRedKey]

And heres an answer from mfr...

Hi John,
Thanks for reaching out regarding our Hellcat intercooler bricks. These bricks are extremely popular because of their performance and durability. You’re looking at 25-30 degrees temp decrease using our bricks vs. stock. I do have a set of them in stock that I can ship out today. I can offer you a better savings than our website, like 10% off which beats the free shipping. If you are interested, please email me back and include your billing/shipping address and a phone number. I’ll set up an account then call you to collect payment.

 

[ScLeCo]

And heres an answer from mfr...

Hi John,
Thanks for reaching out regarding our Hellcat intercooler bricks. These bricks are extremely popular because of their performance and durability. You’re looking at 25-30 degrees temp decrease using our bricks vs. stock. I do have a set of them in stock that I can ship out today. I can offer you a better savings than our website, like 10% off which beats the free shipping. If you are interested, please email me back and include your billing/shipping address and a phone number. I’ll set up an account then call you to collect payment.

That's from PWR?

 

[TheRedKey]

That's from PWR?

Yep

 

[ScLeCo]

Yep

Highly skeptical of that 25-30* claim. I would have to see verifiable, independent, real world proof before actually believing those numbers, let alone shelling out $1,700 for them.

 

[TheRedKey]

Highly skeptical of that 25-30* claim. I would have to see verifiable, independent, real world proof before actually believing those numbers, let alone shelling out $1,700 for them.

Ref C&R LTR... That’s a low temp radiator, aka heat exchanger.

 

[Deebeezie]

I have a set of PWR bricks in my 2.4L, and all I will say is the claim of 25-30 degree claim is utter bullshit. I’d love for PWR to publish data to support their claimbut the fact that they haven’t leads me to believe they’re pushing “claims” over data.

Haven’t seen it anything remotely near what they claim, and if there is a difference it is minuscule at best. I also run the FI interchiller, with spacers and blanket. Got them on clearance, so not too upset about it.

YMMV.

 

[Deebeezie]

Let me add independent, thoroughly tested, and reviewed data. I’m welcome being proven wrong, but I am doubtful at best.

 

[TheRedKey]

Let me add independent, thoroughly tested, and reviewed data. I’m welcome being proven wrong, but I am doubtful at best.

I had to ask for, it wasnt readily available.

 

[Deebeezie]

I had to ask for, it wasnt readily available.

And that tells me even they don’t believe the numbers they claim. If I had to do it all over I’d pass on the PWR Bricks. Especially until they are independently verified and tested.

 

[TheRedKey]

So if you already have a modded car (whatever Forza's Stage 4 is) looks like the best drop is 7 degs?

 

[16GoManGoHC]

I have a set of PWR bricks in my 2.4L, and all I will say is the claim of 25-30 degree claim is utter bullshit. I’d love for PWR to publish data to support their claimbut the fact that they haven’t leads me to believe they’re pushing “claims” over data.

Haven’t seen it anything remotely near what they claim, and if there is a difference it is minuscule at best. I also run the FI interchiller, with spacers and blanket. Got them on clearance, so not too upset about it.

YMMV.

I’d be in this band wagon, no way a 25-30 degree drop in IAT from just a differently designed brick of the same dimensions. The stock bricks are already pretty dense.

 

[16GoManGoHC]

I think they're the same. The only "upgraded" bricks I've found are these but they're pretty expensive for what I believe would be very minimal if any gains.
Hellcat Intercooler Bricks

I could see a possible 25-30 degree change in coolant temp because of the use of a bigger radiator to shed the heat picked up by the bricks but no way are the bricks dropping IAT 25-30 degrees. The use of a bigger radiator is useless to anyone using a power chiller of any sort. The use of better SC bricks along with a power chiller may drop IAT but not no 25-30F, no way 25-30 F more than a stock brick is already doing with the same inlet water temp and flow rate

 

[TheRedKey]

I could see a possible 25-30 degree change in coolant temp because of the use of a bigger radiator to shed the heat picked up by the bricks but no way are the bricks dropping IAT 25-30 degrees. The use of a bigger radiator is useless to anyone using a power chiller of any sort. The use of better SC bricks along with a power chiller may drop IAT but not no 25-30F, no way 25-30 F more than a stock brick is already doing with the same inlet water temp and flow rate

If I deciphered it right its only 6-7 deg drop for a modded car. If adding a hx AND the bricks you get more of a drop. But I already have a 3.5 hx so 6-7 deg isnt worth $1700, not even close.

 

[Unholy707]

They are the same physical size 2.4/2.7 but the newer bricks both on the 2.4 and 2.7 have a fin design change that increases their effective surface area.

How new is newer?