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Got off the phone with a sales rep for a local dodge dealer, apparently the 2023 model HCs will not use the V8 Hemi, instead they will use i6. Has anyone else heard of this? or is this just a ploy to get me to buy now :ROFLMAO:
 

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You would think they'd have stopped taking orders now... Unless they plan to turn that off soon and focus on fulfilling what the have.
 

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You would think they'd have stopped taking orders now... Unless they plan to turn that off soon and focus on fulfilling what the have.
I thought the same thing, Im trying to buy a REWB in a few months but he said the orders for 2022 will end soon, hence the engine will change or something like that. I don't believe it. If anything ill wait for 2023 model as the last hurrah as long as the keep the hemi v8
 

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I thought the same thing, Im trying to buy a REWB in a few months but he said the orders for 2022 will end soon, hence the engine will change or something like that. I don't believe it. If anything ill wait for 2023 model as the last hurrah as long as the keep the hemi v8
I ordered my RENB yesterday from a high volume power broker dealer. I asked and he said they hadn't heard anything about it. Who knows.
 

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What would be truly screwed up is if they kept taking orders, cut over to the new model and invalidated the reason we all ordered. ESPECIALLY given they don't build in the order received.
 

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What would be truly screwed up is if they kept taking orders, cut over to the new model and invalidated the reason we all ordered. ESPECIALLY given they don't build in the order received.
He did say that some other orders (Jeep, RAM) have already converted to '23. It amazes me how i read on this forum that Dodge is losing money on these cars, yet they are highly sought after.
 

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He did say that some other orders (Jeep, RAM) have already converted to '23. It amazes me how i read on this forum that Dodge is losing money on these cars, yet they are highly sought after.
Especially considering the price tag. 100k for a loaded Challenger Redeye and it isn't even a wide body.
 

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He did say that some other orders (Jeep, RAM) have already converted to '23. It amazes me how i read on this forum that Dodge is losing money on these cars, yet they are highly sought after.
Who says Dodge is losing money? That would be impossible! Haven't heard that one. I sure hope they'll be able to scrape by lol.
 

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Especially considering the price tag. 100k for a loaded Challenger Redeye and it isn't even a wide body.
I paid $70,000 for a REWB just 2 1/2 years ago. Only option was the 3.09 gears and only listed for $80,500. Seems so long ago lol! Too much money to upgrade for basically the same car as I now own. I feel bad for people who have to pay so much for their HC now. Dodge is NOT losing money!
 

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I paid $70,000 for a REWB just 2 1/2 years ago. Only option was the 3.09 gears and only listed for $80,500. Seems so long ago lol! Too much money to upgrade for basically the same car as I now own. I feel bad for people who have to pay so much for their HC now. Dodge is NOT losing money!
I read this on another forum here today. I spec'd out a REWB with the exact same creature comforts on my '16 and its going for 86k before taxes, registration, etc which brought it to over 90k. i wish i could of afforded one 2 years ago.
 

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He did say that some other orders (Jeep, RAM) have already converted to '23. It amazes me how i read on this forum that Dodge is losing money on these cars, yet they are highly sought after.
Dodge wasn't loosing money on the cars themselves, they were paying out over a billion dollars for carbon credits to Tesla to make the cars.
 

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Who says Dodge is losing money? That would be impossible! Haven't heard that one. I sure hope they'll be able to scrape by lol.
Well, they aren't making hardly any profit. Due to being afoul of CAFE standards, they're being heavily taxed on every car they make. I don't think they're losing money yet, but they would if they kept making them after 2023 with the 2024 standards go into effect. Demand has nothing to do with it. In 2024, the fines per car go up to something like $50k per car made. It's also got nothing to do with Hellcats per se. It's the fact that Dodge has no offset vehicles to neutralize the fleet rating. While Hellcats are a very small portion of their overall output, it's the lowly SXT they make a lot of that doesn't even meet the minimum ratings that is causing Dodge to not be able to keep the Hellcats going.
 

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Almost agreed but buying a first year car isnt a wise move. 6 cylinder Turbo cars these days are no joke!

The Supra is smashing everything with basic bolt-ons! But they do have a wicked tranny. I wonder if Dodge will ge DCT?

If thats true I'd be the first inline to buy the turbo I6...
 
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