ROFLMAOWell, it really all comes down to a matter of your personal preference. Honestly, both cars are pretty damn awesome. You can get into a Challenger Hellcat far more cheaper than a Charger, but the Charger is slightly faster and has the benefit of 4 doors.
It's been proven by Road and Track, mirrored in Car and Driver, that the 0-60 and 0-100 time on the NB Challenger is either the same or FASTER than the WB. In every major publication test I've ever seen. That's because 700hp on 275s and 700hp on 305s is not really much difference in rubber per the force being put down. And to really make you think I'm stupid, I've read numerous sources where the NB SRT Hellcat has a .1 average 0-60 faster than the WB Redeye on the street. Reason: Traction control issues due to the increased torque. Sure, on paper the Redeye and WB are faster, until you factor in the uneven/unclean surface of public roads. The less torque the Hellcat makes allows for a wider usable RPM band and controllable force application for street use.Performance benefit on street use negligible? Guess you never launched or floored a standard body hellcat from a light or less than 25 mph, it's absolutely pathetic to put 275s on a 700hp performance vehicle. Yes you can buy a wheel/tire setup but the challenger has issues with fitment on the wider wheel/tire setup. Charger is doable.
Really depends on your budget here imo, but if you can afford it then it's wb or bust.
Well, I will say this: 305s are easier to drive. They will be more forgiving. But they will have a similar traction profile at low RPM. To launch both, you'll need to know how to do a good bump start. I generally pop off the line and lift a little off the accelerator, once its rolling at 10-15mph, then I go WOT with a smooth roll on (half second to the floor). The trick is to get the momentum shifting back, and to go WOT about the time the car nears max "squat." This gives you full rear traveling inertia which compresses the rear suspension and takes the slack out. This will give you the best bite onto a street takeoff that I've found. But, if you just try to drive it hard from a full stop, the tires will float on top of the pavement because it breaks out before the inertia shifts over the rear.First, if you want a M6, Challenger is the only choice. The NB is much prettier, cleaner and is closer to the retro styling. I figured the main advantage of the WB was bigger tires, until I read Xylander. My stock P0AS are slippery, and get worse in the cold, I have 275/305 PS4S summer’s on order for the warm weather, now X has me thinking I should do 275’s all around. I would prefer a Charger but a M6 is more important. I thought a RE Charger would be cool, but after reading X…. He makes me feel better about what I have, thanks X!
Great info, thanks, and you are waaaay out of my league. I’m not a racer, just a slacker looking to enjoy the ride. I don’t push cars hard in corners anymore (I’ve slipped off the road more than once in my lifetime, and I really like this car) I just like to lean on it on entrance ramps and the like, but tired of feathering it all the way through 2nd. Orig plan was 305’s on 10.5’s, but if I will not see any benefit, 275’s and 9.5’s all around would be more convenient.Well, I will say this: 305s are easier to drive.
To be honest, tires are like shoes. Try some out. You might like them better. I'm speaking in terms of pure physics here. Spending money on 305s isn't going to give you $500 more worth of performance. It'll look more aggressive, and it will handle differently. Wider tires will catch road grooves more often (a negative) and their traction profile (how the car operates under power) will differ. The 275s on my car predictably allow for about 10 degrees of torque steer on most launches. The 305s may do the same, but the recovery may waddle a little depending on the tire's down pressure and tread patch. Or, they may not. I really don't know and the brand/type of tire will perform differently from one to the next. All I'm getting at is to say you're not wrong by wanting to try some out. Reviews and internet forums are great for getting a general idea of what to expect, but again like shoes, you won't really know if they're right for you unless you try a set out.Great info, thanks, and you are waaaay out of my league. I’m not a racer, just a slacker looking to enjoy the ride. I don’t push cars hard in corners anymore (I’ve slipped off the road more than once in my lifetime, and I really like this car) I just like to lean on it on entrance ramps and the like, but tired of feathering it all the way through 2nd. Orig plan was 305’s on 10.5’s, but if I will not see any benefit, 275’s and 9.5’s all around would be more convenient.
BTW: My friend has the PSS on his Vette, I looked, not available in stock (front) 275/40ZR20.
To show how good the PSS was, I turned a 9.89 using 315/35/20 summer tires at the drag strip on my 2015 Mustang GT (the 1,024whp car I mentioned before). And yes, the PS4S is better. I use the All seasons on mine and they're better than any summer compound tire I've ever used outside of a drag radial.The PS4S is the replacement for the PSS, and is a better overall tire. You can get them in a 275/40Z/R20.
What exactly are you saying "stick it next to a GTR, C8, ZL1 1lE, and you'll still be in the game."?Bro, nothing is sexier than the widebody challenger hellcat. Stick it next to a GTR, C8, ZL1 1LE, and you’ll still be in the game. Not so much a charger, looks too family friendly. And when the time comes that you want the widebody cause you will best to do it now.