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Yeah, since these smoke the tires easily anyway.............
Anytime someone buys a used sports car without having it inspected, they risk buying someone's used hand grenade. Now, add to the fact that many of these cars cost upwards of 70 grand on the used market... and that's a lot of money to pay for something that may or may not work. I personally won't look twice at a Hellcat that has a P1400 code. I could care less if it's a perfect build tuned by Jesus Christ himself. As the old saying goes, used cars are most often for sale for a reason. This is especially true for halo sports cars. For most people, the Hellcat is an end-of-the-line car. It's not like someone owned a Camry and thought they wanted to upgrade to something like a 3 series BMW. What does one upgrade to after a Hellcat? The answer is going to be a $150k+ car.

Thus, a lot of used, modified Hellcats on the market have bad builds, poor configurations, tune problems, and so on. They're almost never problem free, and 100% of the cause of the problem is often the person is selling it because they don't want to spend more time and more money fixing their car's problem. Instead, they order a new Hellcat and make up some sort of story as to why they ordered a new one... which has nothing to do with the fact that they pullied, pinned, and tuned the car with a mail order tune and it never worked right again.

My personal favorites are the ones who mod the engine, tune it, then completely do nothing anywhere else and leave the stock driveshaft, axles, wheels and tires. They sell it because the car drives like crap (and usually after an axle boot starts leaking).
 

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Ok, Thank You but I know the belt and pulley are stock but how can I tell if the injectors are different and if Tim Barth had anything to do with it??

How do you know if the car is turned to e-85?

With My Diablo tune, there was a tuner screen that showed what tune I had. I did find a ODB connector with a long wire under the dash this morning but it disappears behind the dash. I have to pull the lower dash cover to trace it.
You have to take it to a tuner. They can tell from there what was tuned.
 

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@ Xylander, baabootoo, Mattm400
I am way more intelligent than you could possibly imagine... I was going to buy the car regardless of the tune I was asking for information and I would really appreciate, being new to this community, if the three of you would keep you personal opinions on my decisions to yourselves as I am not here to be judged, just to seek answers and give input when asked.
This is your opinion.

In reality, you did the dumbest thing imaginable by buying a modified Hellcat without even knowing if it's supposed to be running on 93 or e85. I'm also not judging you. I'm just pointing out the FACT that you unintelligently purchased a modified car without having it inspected. If you had, you would have all of those answers and you would know what it will take to get it to operate correctly.

But, to say you'd have bought it, regardless of the tune, is pretty telling. That's because a tune and a configuration go hand-in-hand. I've seen bad tunes and configurations on these cars that require thousands and thousands of dollars to correct. It's a bit naive to say you'd buy the car, regardless of the state it is in. That's because I've seen $50k Hellcats that needed $20k in work. I've seen pullied Hellcats with the beginnings of blower bearing failure.

The reason why I won't typically buy a modified Hellcat is because -most- of them don't stop with just a tune. They likely had a pulley at a minimum and it was simply reverted to stock for resale. Then, when the $12k blower dies 6 months later, you can ask yourself how wise your decision was.

Lastly, no tune by itself gives a Hellcat 845hp. That is almost 150hp over stock. If the 845 figure is true, then at some point not only was it modified, but it was SERIOUSLY modified with a lot more than just a tune.
 

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With All of the things you've said, why didn't you just lead with this? You are judging when you call someone's decision unintelligent. Seeing as I work with cars and Engines day in and day out, I am very aware of what the possibilities are with a used vehicle. I simply asked about a tune and ended up here.
Being aware of the possibilities and knowing the true state of the vehicle during pre-purchase is kind of what I'm getting at here. The only way to figure out what you've got, what's been done, and what needs to be corrected can only be had via a visit to someone with either tuning software, or a professional grade diagnostic tool.

Worst case scenario is you bought someone's track toy that was downgraded for resale. If it blows the tires off with just a little bit of gas, then they might have built the car to run on 18" slicks with beadlocked wheels. This wouldn't be the first or 100th time someone pillaged their track toy and removed the $3,000 carbon fiber driveshaft, the $5,000 wheels and tires, and so on. On stock running gear, of course it runs terribly.

However this situation plays out, it will likely either cost $$$ to put the required kit back on the car, or $$$ to revert whatever changes have been done to make it streetable. Hellcat parts are never cheap, OEM or aftermarket.
 
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