[Reaperhwk]

Hi all. New member here.

Always wanted a hellcat and I’m in a position to order a 2022 jailbreak. My only question is that I see there are no incentives on the 2022 but dodge extended incentives on 2021 models until 1/31.
Do you think dodge will offer any incentives on the 2022 models soon? Really interested in the 0% financing they are offering on the 21s now. If they had that on the 22 I’d buy today.
Is there any truth that they may be limited production as well? So order now or not at all?

 

[Xylander]

There will be no incentives offered on any Hellcat, of any type until the end of 2023. There's sky high demand, no supply, and most new ones have to be ordered. Jailbreaks are unique in that ALL of them have to be special ordered. There won't be any Jailbreaks on dealer lots looking for a new home unless a buyer backed out of it.

Dodge has not officially addressed the limited nature of the Jailbreak, however, dealerships are only receiving 1-2 allocations for builds. As others have pointed out, this comes to a 2,500-3,000 unit limit if Dodge is limiting allocations this severely.

According to my dealer, he says that by the time my build is expected to come in (March-April '22), he expects Chrysler Capital to have the 0% for 72 financing available. So, you will likely get 0%-0.9% special financing incentives, but you won't get stuff like Power Dollars rebates and dealer customer cash rebates.

The longer you wait to put an order in, the higher your chances are of missing out on an allotment. If this happens, your dealer has to shop for one and trade for an allotment with another dealer. As that happens, you'll get slapped with a 10-30k ADM (added dealer markup). In addition, some of the smaller dealerships (like Tallahassee Dodge I went through), had no real clue what a Redeye Jailbreak was and had no idea that they were limited until they looked up their allocations in their system. As news of the Jailbreaks gets traction in Q1 2022, you can expect ADMs to start appearing on most of them from Q2 onwards (spring/summer sales drives up demand). Thus, right now, many of us, self included, are ordering JBs ADM free at or below MSRP. My deal is estimated around 2% below MSRP. This will absolutely not be the case in 6 months. It took me 3 different dealerships to find one that didn't want to slap an ADM on my JB order.. and I ordered on 12/28. In 6 months, you might have to spend all day on the phone calling small dealerships all over the country to find one that won't stick you with a $30,000 ADM.

As my granddad used to say, "Sh*t or get off the pot." As the longer you wait, the car is going to cost your more money as the allocations start to dry up.

 

[Xylander]

To amplify what I said before, when you go to talk to a dealer about a JB order, most if not all of your negotiation will have to be around the insistence that you want the car ADM free. They're already nutty expensive, and an ADM can drastically raise the final cost. RIGHT NOW, there's still plenty of allocations to be had, so there's no need to pay an ADM because you can just find another dealership and get the car shipped to you for a cost far beneath a hefty ADM.

In the future, negotiating down the ADM will be the norm. If you know you're going to order one, now is the time before the ADMs get out of hand.

 

[Reaperhwk]

Thanks for the insight. I have a credit union that I could get 72 months at 2.2% so if it’s really a no go to wait for dodge financing I’ll have to do what I have to do.

 

[Slowpoke387]

I’ll have to do what I have to do.

And this is exactly why there will be no incentives and why dealers will be hitting people with ADM's. They know this.

 

[Reaperhwk]

And this is exactly why there will be no incentives and why dealers will be hitting people with ADM's. They know this.

Within reason. I’m not going to pay ADM now. If I can get MSRP and 2.2% for 72 months with a healthy down payment it is not a bad deal to me. Anything more than that I’d have to reconsider.

 

[Reaperhwk]

Just called local dealer. Was told by sales manager they can still order and 4-5 months. I said I’ll come in if you can guarantee there will be no ADM. waiting for call back. May need to call several dealers I suppose.

 

[Purdey20]

Just called local dealer. Was told by sales manager they can still order and 4-5 months. I said I’ll come in if you can guarantee there will be no ADM. waiting for call back. May need to call several dealers I suppose.

Hello,
Ordered a JB from a Wisconsin dealer on December 15. I believe they had one allocation, MSRP.
They have no idea when it will show up. At least i have a number.

 

[Purdey20]

Ordered a J/B from a Wisconsin dealer on Dec. 15 . They had an allocation for one car , i believe. MSRP.
They have no real idea when it might show up.
At least i have a number.

 

[White Trash]

Fake News
Jailbreaks are NOT LIMITED

 

[riddic99]

Fake News
Jailbreaks are NOT LIMITED

Not limited in production but from the sound of things dealers are being limited in allotment. At least that's what's been reported numerous times.

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[Blue ridge smoke]

Fake News
Jailbreaks are NOT LIMITED

I don't know if they are or not but my dealer only had an allocation for one challenger and one charger for February production. I got the challenger. Each month they'll be allocated a certain amount based on parts availability. But from what I understood the jailbreak option was not a "limited edition ".

 

[Reaperhwk]

Depending on how many are built in 2022 they could be pretty limited and rare. I talked to numerous dealers today and there talking like only 3000 may be made total if you estimated the yearly allotment by what was received to date. That is why they are starting to get marked up just to get on the list in line. Pay me 30k over msrp and I’ll put you in the que type crap.

 

[DCS01]

I don't know if they are or not but my dealer only had an allocation for one challenger and one charger for February production. I got the challenger. Each month they'll be allocated a certain amount based on parts availability. But from what I understood the jailbreak option was not a "limited edition ".

But is it really parts? If you look at the scatpack Charger widebody it looks like most of not all of the jailbreak options are available there is some form. You can’t necessarily pick and choose, but you can get carbon/suede and red belts on the scatpack but you can’t on a non/jailbreak Redeye.

 

[Xylander]

no way of knowing any of this 1st off no dealer has any clue what the future holds. Secondly no programs are available because 22’s aren’t even built yet. No inventory no programs. They are still finishing 21’s until the end of January.

21s are done. Factory is closed and they've begun canceling any straggling '21s still not made. The only '21s that will be made at this point are already completed with a VIN and are sitting at the upfitter or in some other distant step in the chain prior to final inspection and shipping.

There will be no factory incentives, they've pretty much said as much already. It's the final full 2 model years and there will be -no- incentives on these cars. There haven't been for quite some time (most of '21). Honestly, it would be a stupid business decision for them to offer incentives now because every one they're making is already sold either as customer sold orders or they're sold while in transit. The '22s will have no incentives and the '23s will all have ADMs.

I was around for the '13 and '14 end of the run on the GT500s. The same thing will play out again. The '14 GT500s were leaving the lots with enormous ADMs and they still sold all of them. The Redeyes will go out the exact same way. Right now, there's a whole slew of people who've been on the fence on a Redeye, waiting for what the last models are going to be. When they get announced, I'd be willing to bet close to half of all they sell in 2023 will come from buy orders in the first 2 weeks banks are open. The rest will land on dealer lots with 50k+ ADMs on them. That's because there are a LOT of people with money to throw and they're just biding their time waiting on the 2023.

For the average Joes who just want a car of their own to enjoy... that ship is just about ready to sail and the final boarding call is out. 2023 will be the year of the ADM and the $150k Redeye. You just wait. Heck, there's SXTs right now with $1k ADMs on them at my local dealership. The Redeyes are going to be absolutely nuts.

 

[grandsport754]

if in northeast give chapman dodge of horsham pa a try, i had more communication with them then i had with the dealer where my order was canceled rewb , on waitlist for jailbreak with them

 

[Xylander]

Where did you hear this information? No disrespect but I have a family member who works for corporate. He says they are so backed up because of chip shortages. 22’s haven’t even started production yet. Also I ordered a 2020 hellcat Widebody in may of 2020 with 7k in power dollars and then ordered a 21 with 4K bonus cash in February of 2021.

I follow the Brampton facility FB community page. They're currently shut down to perform the switch over to the '22s. I want to say they start back up on the 17th? I'd have to go back and look. As for the power dollars, Dodge has been telling their dealers no on Power Dollars. Bonus cash is regional specific. In the SE region, we had 2,500 bonus cash when I ordered my 2020, I also got the PD discount, military, and first responder discounts. I did great. My 2022 has -0- incentives. None. The only one that may apply is Chrysler financing at 0-0.9% over 72. As of right now, even that is off, but by the time my JB comes in, the spring sales event will be going.

 

[Xylander]

also 2021 hellcat has incentives still redeye does not.

And yes, standard Hellcats and Redeyes are two totally different things. Redeyes are in very high demand right now. In 2020, Dodge's best selling Hellcat was a Redeye Widebody. I imagine the 2021s are going to be similar.

 

[Xylander]

Yes I ordered a 22 end of November. You are correct no incentives exist as of yet, but I believe that will change once inventory fills up. No incentives exist for any of the chargers base model and up. Again this is because no inventory.

Yes, and couple that with the fact that it's the end of life for the Hemi across all models, and you have a low inventory situation (which will take 90 days or so to rectify) coupled with a public run on the last of the Hemis. There's people who have been waiting over a year to get a car. There's a huge backlog of customers and the dealer shortage is going to last. As they do get cars in, they'll mark them up. In this climate, it just doesn't make sense to expect any incentives because Dodge is going to sell every one they make, regardless.

 

[Xylander]

Do you think incentives will be available on 22 hellcat non redeye? Also when did you order ur hellcat?

I don't think there will be. I could be wrong. But I don't see it happening. I ordered my purple Hellcat in March of 2020 and placed the order for my '22 REWB Jailbreak on 12/28.