I have a couple sets of cleaned and pressure tested cooling bricks and a RE lid (needs repainted) around, if anybody’s interested in them, let me know.

 

Pm sent

 

I might be able to get something for my full ported and fresh rebuilt one, but not worth it.

 

Have to buy one of theirs $250 pulleys too which isn’t included. Hellcat pulley will not work. Adding a pulley is mandatory. Deceptive pricing. Should be $4999. Hard pass on this

 

It’s no lid, no pulley (you have to buy one of theirs, and no bricks. IC bricks are extremely expensive. Wouldn’t recommend

 

I will say this as an argument. If I can gain reliability over the stock ihi or a competing company it is worth it to me. Obviously, this isnt for the guy who wants to be the fastest person. The whipple 3.8 will out perform this blower no doubt. But for the guy who wants what I hope to be an 8.5 capable blower (maybe faster) it is a good spot to be. Or someone who wants to run the 9.0 class this will be a great option.
I do a fair amount of street miles. More then most people who run similar times to me and I make a ton of passes when I go out and test.

 

Thanks fellas!

 

Ok, don't fry me for this, it's a simple question. If a regular Hellcat is looking for a reliable modest power increase is this an option. Goal would be 800ish whp, not track racing.
Or is a standard pulley and tune the better way to go?

 

Agree with the rest. Had someone call the other day. I said I would love to sell you one but a stock blower can do that all day. If 800 wheel is the goal. Stock blower is all you need.

 

Cool, look forward to trying it out 😳

 

I have a 2650 on order. Placed it yesterday morning. Curious the kind of track numbers it will put down. I'm excited. I asked Greg at Kong how hard can I spin the blower he told me as hard as I want. The Magnuson used an Eaton rotor pack and people spun those extremely hard. It was the Jackshaft tube that kept breaking on those. So it is sounding like this thing will be reliable and take abuse.

 

like you stated i'm hoping for a 8.5 car (dependably blower wise)

 

The main draw for this design is they are symmetrical 4 lobed rotors--so both spin the same speed--so should be much easier on the bearings than the 3:5 IHI design which tends to destroy the male bearing if pushed too hard.
I don't know what the efficiency comparison is between this rotorpack and the IHI rotorpack. An rpm per rpm psi comparison between them would be nice to know.

 

You have to reuse your cooling bricks too.

 

Yikes. Ok then this is a no deal for me. Whipple it is then.

 

$5999 no lid

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Not a bad price for a direct swap. Looked into the magnuson 2650 and you have to take apart the motor just the install it..

 

SDG will call you and talk to you if they find issues and are very knowledgeable. They won’t just slap your stuff together and send it out the door. SDG is hellcat only. Stick with them, use no one else (big name wise). Have been around for a long time and dealt with most of the names in the business. SDG are the only ones I’ll trust now.

 

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You couldn’t pay me to use FAS.

 

agree the SDG snout and plate are fantastic parts, I am never doing anything else to my IHI except selling it and going with their setup when the inevitable happens again for bearings going out....bushings I can handle, the rest is just something I have HAD done enough times to check off ANY BOX

 

SDG bearing plate/snout, Mike’s, or turbo. All I’ll recommend.

 

I wouldn’t use them just go turbo

 

I'd guess the 2650 would be in the 5-6000 area. If it's as much as any other blower offered, it's not going to sell. I wonder if they'll do a discount if you send in your blower for the overhaul.

 

What do you mean by "send in your blower for the overhaul"?

 

From what Greg has said orders open first week of March. I plan on buying one to test. So far seems promising. Price will depend on how promising. Price has to be less then a Whipple.

 

I've got one on oreder as well.

 

 

Will let you know how it works 😎

 

I wouldn’t buy it

 

Out of curiosity why the change on opinion?

 

Well.... Dodge has set the bar pretty low for vaporware product releases... how long did it take them to get DC stage kits out after announcing? 2 years? 3?
So an aftermarket vendor taking a month or two is really nothing...

 

Still no pricing.

 

I asked on their FB page about it and crickets. Get pretty tired of companies releasing products several weeks before they actually release it.

 

Yeah but turbos are a pain in the ass to deal with. I learned that lesson a long time ago. Reserve those for the racers trying to win money.

...........Or win races! I agree that they are more work to setup but once you get them done and keep maintenance up on them, they work.

Not nearly as much fun at sane speeds on the street either.

It depends on how you set them up and how you size them. A big turbo car won't run like a blower car on the bottom end but if you know that you're not going to drag race (street driven), you size the turbo one or two sizes smaller or throw a twin scroll turbo on and you have a nice little, happy street car that you can adjust boost on. I know that you can adjust boost on a blower too but it's not as common as a turbo and doesn't work as easily as pressing a button (or using C02) on a turbo car.

I tend to favor a turbo setup over any other type of forced induction and it's just my opinion.

 

whipple style generates less heat than the TVS style

You got data on that?

Yes this is actually correct. The 2650 bricks are massive. IAT2 temps actually go down as you make pulls with it. I have logs upon logs seeing this with my own 2650 on my ZL1. Vs the stock blower that would sent temps flying.

As far as heat goes Whipple has all these designs beat for one main reason the others designs can’t do. The Whipple in bypass mode, ie idle, cruising around, etc is passing bypass air through one stage of cooling keeping the blower housing and rotors cool, all others only cool the air going through into the engine and recirculating already compressed air over and over and over at idle and part throttle getting the blower and rotors hot. The smaller the pulleys, ie more air, the more part throttle recycling of hot air goes on the hotter the blower gets in part throttle running.