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Badass build. Cannot wait to see the finished product. I'm curious as to see how those wheels look as well. Are you staying with that brushed finish?
Yes I am keeping them brushed like that, I selected hand brushed so I believe they will hand brush them to make the lines even. The transparent clear coat is in Dark Smoke. So you will see the machined brush lines through the paint. From what I hear these things glow when they are in the sun. Also, the GNS-1 wheels will be the first car these are going on for Vossen. So we will be doing a little photo shoot and send them over for the site.

This is one of only like 2 pictures I can find of the wheels that's not just a website photo. I'm not sure what color these are in. But this is the wheel painted.
 

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i have read up on e85 some don't claim to be an expert. E85 is said to clean off the oil on the cylinder wall which causes excessive heat and friction. Excessive heat can burn a valve, cause piston to over expand, etc. I read the Demon had holes drilled in the rods that would spray oil on the cylinder walls to offset the cleaning action of the e85. I'm glad you guys have the $$$$$ and time for such fun. Old guy here is just enjoying the stock Charger. Still smiles by the mile. Screeching sound sounds like the supercharger belt/pully being pushed out of alignment. Replace the belt with a new one and repeat the test to see if the sound is any different.

Cheers.
 
Yes I am keeping them brushed like that, I selected hand brushed so I believe they will hand brush them to make the lines even. The transparent clear coat is in Dark Smoke. So you will see the machined brush lines through the paint. From what I hear these things glow when they are in the sun. Also, the GNS-1 wheels will be the first car these are going on for Vossen. So we will be doing a little photo shoot and send them over for the site.

This is one of only like 2 pictures I can find of the wheels that's not just a website photo. I'm not sure what color these are in. But this is the wheel painted.
That is going to look killer.
 
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I agree, I do drive the car very very hard. When I drive aggressive I also paddle shift the shit out of it. I downshift as I approach and use the paddles to set the gear for launch at different speeds. From talking with the builder and tuner (same person) revving the car excessively for these autos can put extra stress on the internals. Also was told that a car when revving is under different conditions than under load.

I do not free rev the car when at a stop. But I do paddle shift for up and downshifts when I aggressively drive. This may have caused my early rod failure?

One of my valves did let go and smacked the piston. Heads are in good shape. I sent them to thitek to be checked out and have them ported with new springs etc. I'm going to build another motor on the side to have ready when this one starts acting up. I'll do billet crank on that one.



I fill up at the turnpike plazas which is good e85, it is always around 66-67%, I have a pillar gauge that always gives me my content asap.
Been there done that, went the same route with new motor ported polished heads more aggressive cam, Kooks headers, 2.65/10% Fore fuel system E85 with pillar gauges this time. Kept stock supercharger for now, been looking at the new KB 4.9 intercooled one. Mine let lose cause bad fuel in Iowa while on the power tour.
 
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Been there done that, went the same route with new motor ported polished heads more aggressive cam, Kooks headers, 2.65/10% Fore fuel system E85 with pillar gauges this time. Kept stock supercharger for now, been looking at the new KB 4.9 intercooled one. Mine let lose cause bad fuel in Iowa while on the power tour.
Wow! Looks like lightning struck that block! Sorry to hear about the motor, but that leaves room for improvement now. Your building a nice power plant, what pistons, rods and crank did you go with?

Go with the KB or the whipple, you've got everything else ready for it!!
 
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i have read up on e85 some don't claim to be an expert. E85 is said to clean off the oil on the cylinder wall which causes excessive heat and friction. Excessive heat can burn a valve, cause piston to over expand, etc. I read the Demon had holes drilled in the rods that would spray oil on the cylinder walls to offset the cleaning action of the e85. I'm glad you guys have the $$$$$ and time for such fun. Old guy here is just enjoying the stock Charger. Still smiles by the mile. Screeching sound sounds like the supercharger belt/pully being pushed out of alignment. Replace the belt with a new one and repeat the test to see if the sound is any different.

Cheers.
Never thought it could be the pulley and belt alignment. I'll check into that.
 
Wow! Looks like lightning struck that block! Sorry to hear about the motor, but that leaves room for improvement now. Your building a nice power plant, what pistons, rods and crank did you go with?

Go with the KB or the whipple, you've got everything else ready for it!!
what about transmission ?
 
Wow! Looks like lightning struck that block! Sorry to hear about the motor, but that leaves room for improvement now. Your building a nice power plant, what pistons, rods and crank did you go with?

Go with the KB or the whipple, you've got everything else ready for it!!
Went with the Carrillo H-beam rods and Diamond Pistons, stock crank. Motor build by Demon Performance/TKM and being tuned by Tim Barth.
 
i have read up on e85 some don't claim to be an expert. E85 is said to clean off the oil on the cylinder wall which causes excessive heat and friction. Excessive heat can burn a valve, cause piston to over expand, etc. I read the Demon had holes drilled in the rods that would spray oil on the cylinder walls to offset the cleaning action of the e85. I'm glad you guys have the $$$$$ and time for such fun. Old guy here is just enjoying the stock Charger. Still smiles by the mile. Screeching sound sounds like the supercharger belt/pully being pushed out of alignment. Replace the belt with a new one and repeat the test to see if the sound is any different.

Cheers.
Can you cite this anywhere?
Most GENIII HEMIs have oil squirters attached to the block which are intended to keep the cylinders and pistons cooled. Not holes in the rods, and absolutely not because of E85, which is not recommended for the Demon.
 
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Went with the Carrillo H-beam rods and Diamond Pistons, stock crank. Motor build by Demon Performance/TKM and being tuned by Tim Barth.
Nice. From what I hear the stock crank is good for 1400 hp. Is demon performance doing any flex tuning? And are they porting stock blowers?

They are only couple hours north. Should be a stout bottom end.
 
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I am considering putting this in the trunk towards the back behind the seat. Based on the measurements I think it will fit.

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Mount it, then have lines run to the main tank. I would think because of the elevation the gas cap would be blocked off and it would have to be filled primarily from the trunk.

Once mounted and plumbed have it wrapped in the same material as trunk lining for a clean look?

Or have it painted for a race look?

They have these phantom fuel setups for diesel trucks to extend range. So wanting it for my e85 beast. I plan on doing allot of driving with the car this year. My builder is also a fabricator and can make a custom fuel tank as well.

This is going to be done after everything and it is optional, just trying to think out side the box and have something unique.

Thoughts?
 
You can put an aux tank in the trunk, you need a steel or aluminum firewall between the backseat and trunk compartment. Make sure tank is ventless cap and vented outside. Probably wouldn’t convince a dot inspector, but it’s been done.
 
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You can put an aux tank in the trunk, you need a steel or aluminum firewall between the backseat and trunk compartment. Make sure tank is ventless cap and vented outside. Probably wouldn’t convince a dot inspector, but it’s been done.
Thank you. I want this thing stealth. And the main thing is I want to be able to use stock gas cap and line to fill car. I wouldn't want to have to fill from the trunk every time.

Aluminum would work. How thick do you think?

Also do you wanna see something cool 04cobravert? Check out my 04 cobra vert!
 

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Nice. From what I hear the stock crank is good for 1400 hp. Is demon performance doing any flex tuning? And are they porting stock blowers?

They are only couple hours north. Should be a stout bottom end.
No Tim Barth is doing the flex fuel tune for me, black key 93 fuel 14 psi boost. Red key E85 fuel 19-20 psi boost. You will have to call Skip at Demon about the blower cause I am not sure.
 
No Tim Barth is doing the flex fuel tune for me, black key 93 fuel 14 psi boost. Red key E85 fuel 19-20 psi boost. You will have to call Skip at Demon about the blower cause I am not sure.
When are you getting the flex?
 
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